Fay Dehr

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  Have Watchtower changed their polices to report to police child sex abuse?

  by pleaseresearch in

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  hi all.

  just speaking to a sister about the royal commission.. she said they they have now changed their guidelines so that they now report all to the police.. really?

  does anyone know if this is true?.

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  Fay Dehr

  Hi Pleaseresearch. It's great that you're in a position to speak with other JWs "under the radar" - please be careful not to say or do anything that could jeopardize that. Despite the March 2018 broadcast, it would seem that elders are going around distributing verbal rumours that "the organization has changed it's policies". Sadly, this is at best "wishful thinking". The truth is, if any elder uses their conscience and calls the police then they will be crushed under the boots of the 'ateful eight. Check this sad recent case where elders in Ireland used their conscience and contacted the police...only to be stamped on: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5660134124552192/irish-elders-deleted-watchtower-reporting-child-sex-abuse-allegation-police
  
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  You MUST Sign the Data Collection Form "...obey...whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.¨"

  by gone for good in

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  the many and complex issues surrounding the collection of person data and new laws aiming to protect individuals control of their own privacy, seem to have hatched about the same time as the governing body expressed their hope that it´s own 8 million would obey their order to "sign this form" effectively transfering total authority over privacy and data issues over to the borg.. what are your thoughts on this coincidence?.

  zuckerberg lost billion$$ when people realized that he had prostituted their personal data and now wt wants the same signed access that he had to info that is $$$.... wt already owns all the real estate and now wants to own all the data.... it´s a current and global issue - please share your thought with the rest of us here.. .

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  In the UK, only "IBSA" International Bible Students Association (setup in 1914 as the UK arm of Watchtower) is legally registered to store your data. Here's the UK government listing for IBSA: https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/Z5281400

  Interesting what they publish (don't hide) that they hold on individuals: (extracts from above link)

  • We process information relevant to the above reasons/purposes. This may include:

  • personal details

  • family details

  • lifestyle and social circumstances

  • membership details

  • goods and services

  • financial details

  • education and employment details

  • visual images, personal appearance and behaviour

  ...and they even boldly admit:

  We also process sensitive classes of information that may include:

  • physical or mental health details

  • racial or ethnic origin

  • religious or other beliefs of a similar nature

  • offences and alleged offences

  • criminal proceedings, outcomes and sentences

  • trade union membership

  ...and they already admit that they share that with basically whoever they like:

  Where necessary or required we share information with:

  • members

  • family, associates or representatives of the person whose personal data we are processing

  • employees

  • current, past and prospective employers

  • healthcare, social and welfare organisations

  • providers of goods and services

  • educator and examining bodies

  • financial organisations

  • employment and recruitment agencies

  • survey and research organisations

  • business associates and professional advisers

  • police forces

  • local and central government

  • other companies in the same group as the data controller

  • other voluntary and charitable organisations

  Can you imagine what dark data-world they'll now create once they get everyone to sign their new GDPR forms?
  
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  GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

  by Fay Dehr in

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  get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

  use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

  under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

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  Notice in the template that (1) it's clearly a non-religious request, and (2) the template denies them from contacting the local congregation or CO about your request. You're safe - local elders will not have a clue!
  
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  GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
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  get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

  use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

  under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

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  Fay Dehr

  Because after 25-May-2018 their GDPR policy claims it will infringe their religion to delete your data. Get it now, and delete it, before they start whimpering about you infringing their religion.

  Plus, as a bonus, wouldn't it be interesting if so many requested their data that they failed to reply to someone within the 40 day limit - and got reported to the ICO?
  
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  GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

  use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

  under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

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  Fay Dehr

  Actually, under existing UK law they're already on slippery legal ground holding info at local congregation level. In the UK any organisation holding data needs to be registered. Presently service reports are only kept in written form, with your name | address | DOB | email | phone | role [pioneer/servant/elder] | "mental state" (sorry, their definition is "O/S or Anointed?"). They already have the database for storing all of this online, which is clearly where this is heading...rapidly.

  In the UK, only "IBSA" International Bible Students Association (setup in 1914 as the UK arm of Watchtower) is legally registered to store your data. Here's the UK government listing for IBSA: https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/Z5281400

  Interesting what they publish (don't hide) that they hold on individuals: (extracts from above link)

  • We process information relevant to the above reasons/purposes. This may include:

  • personal details

  • family details

  • lifestyle and social circumstances

  • membership details

  • goods and services

  • financial details

  • education and employment details

  • visual images, personal appearance and behaviour

  ...and they even boldly admit:

  We also process sensitive classes of information that may include:

  • physical or mental health details

  • racial or ethnic origin

  • religious or other beliefs of a similar nature

  • offences and alleged offences

  • criminal proceedings, outcomes and sentences

  • trade union membership

  ...and they already admit that they share that with basically whoever they like:

  Where necessary or required we share information with:

  • members

  • family, associates or representatives of the person whose personal data we are processing

  • employees

  • current, past and prospective employers

  • healthcare, social and welfare organisations

  • providers of goods and services

  • educator and examining bodies

  • financial organisations

  • employment and recruitment agencies

  • survey and research organisations

  • business associates and professional advisers

  • police forces

  • local and central government

  • other companies in the same group as the data controller

  • other voluntary and charitable organisations

  Can you imagine what dark data-world they'll now create once they get everyone to sign their new GDPR forms?
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  GDPR: help for PIMOs

  by Fay Dehr in

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  we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

  what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

  (thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

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  Fay Dehr

  Right! Actually, someone should begin a useful post where we can collate JW "double-speak" phrases - this may help the inexperienced to truly 'read between the lines' when trying to unravel their literature. Example:

  • "faithful slave" (Your masters and overlords)
  • "encourage" (to force, bully, or beat into feeling of low self-worth)
  • "your rights" (_BLANK_) <<< accompanied by stifled evil snigger...
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  GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

  use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

  under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

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  Fay Dehr

  Get your data from the UK Branch now, before GDPR kicks in on 25-May-2018. Use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested. Under UK law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license. This template hits them where it hurts, and forces them to hand over your data within 40 days - no messing around, in one hit! (Can also be used to extract juicy data from "local charities" - your local Kingdom Hall)

  Download PDF here
  

  Thumbnail of letter:

  [If you have any questions, or need help, then please ask for assistance]
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  GDPR: help for PIMOs

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

  what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

  (thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

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  Fay Dehr

  • If you take a look at this study (https://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/october/kgb-domestic-surveillance-100212.html), you'll see that the former Soviet USSR described as follows:

  When KGB agents wanted to "get to know you," finds Weiner, they wanted more than your address, your occupation, your hobbies or the names of your friends.
  
  They wanted to know what and how people were thinking. And, in almost all cases, they wanted to fundamentally change that way of thinking.
  

  The WTBT$ are ready to take this to the next level. Posts on this forum over the years reveal that ALREADY they've been compiling dossiers on members. Some have managed to obtain copies of data kept on them locally and at branch level. To agree to their GDPR policy is giving them legitimate authority to:

  • Record your financial transactions on JW.org
  • Record your entire internet browsing history by means of cookie tracking
  • Record your emails
  • Record your social networking
  • Record your phone calls
    
  • Build character profile
  • Build psychological profile
  • Access your entire medical record history
  • Access your child's school files
  • Monitor how and when you have sex
  • Record, profile and use data about your every breath...and share that with North Korea

  If that seems overly dramatic, just check the form - please correct me if ANY of the outrageous statements above are exempt from their planned surveillance.

  where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom - 2 Cor. 3:17
  
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  GDPR: help for PIMOs

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

  what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

  (thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

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  Fay Dehr

  We urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to PIMOs who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for WTBT$ to leech their data.

  • What questions could PIMOs ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer? (Thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch")
  • What reasons or replies could PIMOs give when interrogated, to " politely " refuse permission?

  Comments here could be of real help, and spare some from further harassment down the line.
  
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  Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?

  by Fay Dehr in

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  feeling pressure to attend the memorial?.

  as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.

  if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.

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  Fay Dehr